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Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.10.30 19:32:00 -
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I don't know. I've been thinking about quitting once I get my Occulus Rift and it turns out that its great as everyone says it is.
Sadly, I plexed all my accounts til January 30th. I'll most likely play enough to put one plex in each so I can renew without paying money.
I would have to agree that EVE is getting stale, but I could just be burnt out from making billions of isk in a short period of time.
Maybe I just need a break. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.10.30 19:48:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:"if you aren't having fun in a sandbox, it's not the sands fault".
The sandbox could be full of cat poop.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.10.30 20:01:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:"if you aren't having fun in a sandbox, it's not the sands fault". The sandbox could be full of cat poop. Yea but if you're the cat, why complain, just stop pooping lol.
I'm pretty sure this is someone else's poop. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:45:00 -
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Karak Terrel wrote:Amhra Rho wrote:Star Citizen is not even in the same game class as Eve Online. The only similarity between them is spaceships. But they don't even look like spaceships, more like jet fighters. Jet fighters with toilets. I pledged for this game long ago, but the more stuff they show off the less appealing I find sc as a whole.
Did you never play Wing Commander? I mean, if you didn't like that then you won't like SC. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:50:00 -
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Well the largest player flown ships on SC is the Idris:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13097-Idris-Corvette-Revealed
Can handle two fighters and lots of manned guns so you need a group of people to effectively run the ship. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.10.30 22:54:00 -
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Amhra Rho wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Karak Terrel wrote:Amhra Rho wrote:Star Citizen is not even in the same game class as Eve Online. The only similarity between them is spaceships. But they don't even look like spaceships, more like jet fighters. Jet fighters with toilets. I pledged for this game long ago, but the more stuff they show off the less appealing I find sc as a whole. Did you never play Wing Commander? I mean, if you didn't like that then you won't like SC. Never did, although I heard good things about it. Wing Commander never was in the "running", however - quite simply, I only do MMOs.
You must be young. Wing Commander was before MMO's in the early 1990's. I had a copy on the SNES. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:53:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:EVE already has the best free to play model in the business.
The only problem it requires grind for the majority of people. If you are space rich off the backs of others, then you don't need to log in only so often, but there are only a handful of people who fall under that category.
I think I would enjoy EVE more if I didn't have to log on as much is what I am trying to say.
But CCP will have none of that. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:18:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Firstly it will have to compete against EVE, not as it is now, but with 4 more expansions under its belt. I understand Mr Roberts is ambitious to produce an outstanding game; I don't think CCP Seagull is any less passionate. Star Citizen has the advantage of a "clean slate" and learning from the mistakes of other games. EVE will have the advantage of a 12 year development headstart, and experience in dealing with one of the most demanding customer bases imaginable.
Will EVE support walking in stations and Occulus Rift support in 4 expansion?
Well there is Valkyrie, but that's not EVE really and will most likely be F2P.
Yeah there is too much hype and people are spending $1000 on ships in a game that doesn't have anything other than a hanger which you can walk around and gawk at space pixels.
The thing is though, some of us have low expectations... Hell... War Thunder and World of Tanks has better gameplay than EVE but it lacks strategic depth.
You only need slightly better gameplay and somewhat of a strategic depth to achieve success.
War Thunder and World of Tanks and League of Legends have more players than EVE, but they aren't really competing. Sure I might play one of those games for a few hours, but it lacks the depth of EVE to warrant spending most of the time on it.
The issue is that if you have a game that has superior game play AND strategic depth then you'll stop playing the other game.
But the truth is we don't know other than the development promises, but I suppose they aren't going to fail because lack of money. People are just throwing hundreds of dollars at that game.
Anyways, I think that Star Citizens success or failure also rides in the success of the Occulus Rift.
I have a suspicion due to the reviews of people on youtube that I saw is that when people get a rift, they will stop playing games that don't support it because it seems more realistic and immersive with the Rift.
CCP has noticed this so that is why they started Valkyrie and demo the hell out it with the Occulus Rift everywhere they have an event. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:27:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Malcanis wrote:EVE already has the best free to play model in the business. The only problem it requires grind for the majority of people. If you are space rich off the backs of others, then you don't need to log in only so often, but there are only a handful of people who fall under that category. I think I would enjoy EVE more if I didn't have to log on as much is what I am trying to say. But CCP will have none of that. At current prices, a single plex costs 20.5 mil isk per DAY. That's 20-25 minutes per day in a null sec anomaly like forsaken hub if you are flying a crappy t1 BS or attack battlecruiser. Hell, doing ONE site in non-shiny HQ incursion fleet flying a tech 1 BS pays 31 mil + lp. You could literally join a high sec incursion fleet, run ONE HQ site with them per day and at the end of the month you could buy a plex and have STILL have a quarter bil+ isk left to spend on space-hookers and space-blow. And you would enjoy a game more if you didn't have to play that game as much? At what point do you realize that the game in question is not your cup of tea?
I don't like null politics and I don't trust WH corporations. Also I hate mission running and ratting much less incursions.
Also, if people are buying plex to sell for isk it means there is a good portion of the player base who don't earn enough isk to warrant actually buying the plex.
Also personally, I can earn 2-3 plex's every weekend so its not like I have to log in every day.
I mentioned before I actually plex'd 3 accounts til January 30 so I might as well be playing.
Actually... I should check my market orders now.
And truth be told I sort of do enjoy the process of making the isk. Its just that I believe the majority of players who buy their plex do so through grinding of certain actives like missioning which seem like a chore.
It just feels like I have a 200lb on my back to make sure I earn enough isk all the damn time even though I don't.
I just don't like the idea of having to play all the time even if its only 2-3 days a week. I sometimes like to take breaks for a month and do other things for a bit. I want to be free to not play the game when I choose not to. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Captain Tardbar
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Posted - 2013.10.31 17:50:00 -
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Well truth be told I hate LoL.
And what I am trying to say even though I don't have a problem making enough isk to plex 3 accounts, I don't like the idea that I have to play all the time even for 30 minutes a day.
Like I said, some weeks I don't feel like playing EVE.
I don't expect them to change the game because I don't like it.
It just means if I find a F2P game with enough long term strategic depth, I'll stop playing EVE.
And I suppose I won't be alone... "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
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